We Need To Talk About... Meat & Dairy

In the episode of the podcast, Will Evan is joined by Ruth Grice and Jonny Blair to discuss to discuss livestock in agriculture.

29th August 2025

Calls to cut livestock numbers and eat less meat and dairy have become hugely controversial. Beef, lamb and milk are at the heart of Britain’s farming heritage. But consuming a bit less milk and meat is central to all credible plans for helping the UK fight climate change and embrace healthier lifestyles. How do we strike the right balance?

In this episode, Will's joined by dairy farmer Ruth Grice and beef farmer Jonny Blair to discuss amongst other things, why the debate about meat and dairy is so emotive in the UK, the nuances around livestock-based emissions, and the risks of perpetuating a two-tier system where only the richest can afford sustainable, high welfare meat and dairy products.